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1819 June 20

To Erskine Infermdumni?

Lett.7. Whigs AntiReformists
S.4.Pos.3. Being not proved
Earl Gray
Irish Volunteers
Earl Grey

raving instead of running

25 June 1819 Discard or Post off this sheet.

Now from this of , in shape did ?
In name whatever On the contrary shape in
quantity good before that<add> days </add> had the form of</del>
Ireland been so peaceful .

Grey, Newcastle
For Dinner 31 Decr 1817
Fra character of his
invented against that
Reform the undangerousness
of which he had witnessed
in 1782 and declared
in 1794

This if he sees any thing, Earl Grey saw in from 1780 to
1782 inclusive. This, if he remembered any thing, he remembered
in 1794 when in the presence of Mr Pitt Pitt the second then Minister, he
quoted with approbation as above that recommendation given by
Mr Pitt. This if he remembered any thing he remembered
for how could he have forgotten it when at the Newcastle Fox
dinner the last day of December 1815, speaking of all plans of
radical reform under by the description of all such with the exception of as were not
only indicated upon "moderate principles but gradual and always
graded by salutory precaution he de stated himself to be a
"declared enemy" to them: if they were as inducible to practice as
they are plausible in theory I could say he adds I believe them
to be absurd, visionary and senseless? Well then, either he meant
nothing at all, and that surely the best meaning that the fondest
can assign to him or he what he meant was that those proceedings
which he had some production of evil in no shape, and of good can
or transcendent in shape, and which he himself had no more than
13 years before this speech been foremost be recommend, were absurd, [+] It is possible Your
Lordship should have
seen them exempt of it?
—
visionary and senseless. Absurd visionary and senseless!
Uses by arrogance approaching for f to frenzy and that frenzy
continuing unabatedwithout abatement seeking to advise put reason to silence in all never leaves altogether
to give so much as a
shadow of reason for
this change.
enquiries made, Such is the high character of his Lordship's
With such a man how can any other . [+]

And this arrogance against upon whom does it seek to tread?whom is it directed? Upon whom
but upon his formed self? Here then if we follow the steps of Lord Grey
upon Lord Grey in one shape or other we can not avoid treading: a situation
of the delicacy of which no one can form an adequate judgement but the noble at reason, reform
and all those who persist in
following his former self
are thus raved against?
Lord whose apprehension of seeing a manmen have their backs upon themselves
were so acute. But if upon Lord Grey in one of his two so opposite ideas
we cannot but tread trample upon which of them shall it be? Upon his former self
by which the reform in one of its most efficient shape was advocated, and one with such
good reason? or upon his latter self, by which with out so much as an attempt at

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Date_1	1819-06-20	Marginal Summary Numbering	not numbered
Box	137	Main Headings	parliamentary reform
Folio number	024	Info in main headings field	to erskine
Image	001	Titles
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
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Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks
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Notes public	[[notes_public::"inserendumne? / 25 june 1819 discard or post off this sheet" [notes in bentham's hand]]]	ID Number	46741
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