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1819 Dec.17 Radicalism not dangerous

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II Nature of the case
§.10.Sp the p
or 1
Antiradicalists. By
radicalists, sponge
declared a desirable
result: here would be
subversive of rights of
property

Sponge

But by By radicalists (it may be saidsays somebody) a wish to see the a National of the national
bankruptcy effected — or as the phrase is, a sponge applied to the on the part of government by
debt, has at radical reform meetings been openly and uncontradictedly spoken of in some places been radical reform,
in the character of a desirable result: and here would unquestionably be subversion of
is rights of property.

or 2
In
some instances yes,
but rather as are
expected cause of reform
there an intended office

To this come will the following short answers
Associated with it: yes:in some instancesAnswer but rather
a probable cause rather than as one effect a consequence a consequence an effect
1. Spoken of in such meetings, yes. But how? — Rather
intended to be paid as an expected cause of reform
than an intended effect No otherwise than in so few as it
has been declared to be an enhanced effect, does it apply to the present purpose.|

2. Even, supposing it intended to be produced, and produced
accordingly it would not amount to the design
the suppose insinuated in the Speech the design
the supposed of which formed the basis of those men. [+] Note well, that
Subversion - not
of "rights of property"
some rights of property
but of "the" rights
"of property", sets all
the rights of property
in the object charged
to be accused at. Every
time a handkerchief
is picked out of a pocket
subversion of rights of
property buttakes place
more by which the constitution has been subverted. By
True it is that, tothe amount of this debt, so much of the rights of property in that shape
would be subverted: but property in all other shapes
would, for any thing that this would do remain untouched[+].

or 3
2. If produced it
would not be what is
charged subversion of
the rights of property

3. The very danger, whether in itself it be useful or pernicious, proven
in even in respect for property in all other shapes. For what would
to the effect or supposed use of it? only to case take off
so much burthen so much of deduction from property in
all other shapes in all other shapes: deduction, namely that made by taxes. Suppose property, in all other shapes. Note likewise, that
though of from the aggregate
mass of property
in the country, though
no addition would be
made to it, so desalcation
would be made
I do not any that
no preponderant evil
would be produced. But
that is another consideration
which will meet us
presently
—

dealt by, according to the Prince's Reports supposition that
design the existence of which was in the Speech pretendeddeclared to
be believed, it has been seen what would have become of it
and whether , a spe by the very partition, the a impossibility
of paying the debt, and thereby the virtual abolition of
it would not have been effected. But that no such design
of universal partition can possibly have been entertained has it is hed been sufficiently proved. [

4. To no one of the supposed plotters in question would or
could any immediate benefit be produced by this sponge. Ceasing to
pay dividends to the present accountants would not put money into the pocket
of any reformist, or any one else. Suppose the dividends deviated among the radicalists reformists to be put
that instant of the present an ; is that what is meant? But in this supposition the debt would
not be abolished; it would be
kept up. [

Identifier: | JB/137/133/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.
Date_1	1819-12-17	Marginal Summary Numbering	or 1 - or 4
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	133	Info in main headings field	radicalism not
Image	001	Titles	spunge
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	c1 / d1 / e1
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer	arthur wellesley, duke of wellington
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1818
Notes public		ID Number	46850
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