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1820 Apr.23
Radicalism not dangerous

III. Experience II Ireland
3 §.2. Democratic ascendency how

With its wealth of 4 Established Churches had no
two able to interest any members from 10
non Established.

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Causes of the association
1. Desire of self-defence
against invasion
2. do of redress of grievances

The formation of this association had two perfectly distinguishable
and prefe very distinct causes — 1 desire of contributing
to the defence of the Country against foreign invasion, one
and 2. desire of red obtaining redress of grievance.

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Ingredient in the population.
1. Protestants Church of Englandists
400,000
2. Do of Non-Established
Churches 600,000
3. Catholics 3,000,000

To possess any thing like an adequate f conception of the quality
and quantity of these grievances it is necessary to call to mind the materials
of which at that time the population of Ireland was composed at that time in question
as it continues to be at present composed of three
very plainly distinguishable bodies parts. The Protestants of other
Non Established Church 2. Protestants of the Non-Established
Churches chiefly Presbyterian. 3. Catholics. N

Number in the C properties following or thereabouts
Protestants of the Established Church 400,000 600,000; Protestants of
the Non-Established Churches 600,000 400,000; Catholics, 3,000,000 + + Wakefield,
Plowden,
Hardy

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Time of commencement
of the association Ao 1778
or 1777

The commencement of the system was as early as the Year 1778
or according to some accounts as early as 1777. # #

8.
Desire of defence against
invasion, at
first the most prevailing
motive

In the minds of the associators associates in general the sole motive
that had place and operated at the outset was not improbably
the desire of security against the incidental, the
temporary, and most greatest formidable evil, invasion for the purpose
of conquest at the hands of a foreign enemy.

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But from the first, such
the nature and magnitude
of the grievances, many
must have been the
minds in which
the observation of the
government's interests
must have suggested this
as the only time for providing
redress.

But, the nature and magnitude of the grievances
considered, the great probability is it can scarcely have happened
but the des in the minds eyes of no inconsiderable
proportion the state of comparative weakness to which
the danger of invasion had reduced placed the government could
not but have presented itself as affording an opportunity a chance
of obtaining redress, and such a chance an opportunity as if not imposed
at that time, might never occur again to any person then
having a second time.

Identifier: | JB/137/167/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.
Date_1	1820-04-23	Marginal Summary Numbering	5-9
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	167	Info in main headings field	radicalism not dangerous
Image	001	Titles
Category	text sheet	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	e3
Penner	jeremy bentham	Watermarks	[[watermarks::[prince of wales feathers] i&m 1818]]
Marginals	jeremy bentham	Paper Producer	arthur wellesley, duke of wellington
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year	1818
Notes public		ID Number	46884
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