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1819 Decr 7
Radicalism not dangerous

Note (c) 3 Notes
III Experience
II Ireland
3

XI. The imputed changes impossible

What they say is — that these public men with whom
I agree do not wish for reform, and that we do wish for
in subversion of the right of property.

What I in my defence say is that we on our part do wish
for reform and we do not wish for subversion nor
for any invasion of the rights of property and
think they as to them they do not believe as to have any such
work as that which they do attribute to us and that
accordingly it is not for any such purpose as the preventing
the subversion of property that they are destroying subverting our
liberties and our security, but for the purpose of preventing
reform from taking place, and so preserving against
all remedy that system of abuse by which they profit
that system of tyranny oppression and depredation which they are excusing

II. Cause of Democratic
ascendency
Governments weakness

(c): Hardy p.194 Ao 1778. The Volunteer army of Ireland is
"indebted for its formation to a letter of Sir Richard Heron, then
"managing secretary) . . . Belfast . . . . applied to Government for
"protection against the common enemy, who then manacled it with
"peculiar danger. Sir Richard Heron's answer was plain and candid.
"Government could afford it none. . . Government was as
"to national defence abdicated and the people left to take care of
"themselves. But if thus abandoned, their spirit soon supplied the defects
"and imbecility of administration . . p.197. Government
"stood astounded. With unavailing regret it now beheld the effects
"of its own immediate work indeed; but to look more retrospectively,
"the work of its predecessors and of England. To disunite or
"the volunteers was beyond their power, though the several object of
"their wishes. It was proposed to some of their officers to get commissions
"from the Crown, or take them out for forms sake merely — p. 196 —
"At that very moment was a noble English army captive in America. So
"strongly forgetful are some intemperate politicians of the most alarming
"events, even of yesterday, and so unable or so resolutely determined
"are they to draw no beneficial inference from them whatever. The
"volunteers were at last no longer teased nor tormented. Those who were
"most attached to administration fell into their rank as well as its
"opponents."

(C 1)

Hardy p. 239 238 Ao 1782. "Towards the end of the summer ... p.239 there
"now remained but 2 3000 for the entire defence of the kingdom.
"Altogether there were not, allowing for the deficiencies of regiments
"and common casualties, regulars sufficient to do garrison
"duty."

Identifier: | JB/137/407/001 "JB/" can not be assigned to a declared number type with value 137.
Date_1	1819-12-07	Marginal Summary Numbering
Box	137	Main Headings	radicalism not dangerous
Folio number	407	Info in main headings field	radicalism not dangerous
Image	001	Titles	note (c)
Category	collectanea	Number of Pages	1
Recto/Verso	recto	Page Numbering	d3 / e3
Penner	jeremy bentham; john flowerdew colls	Watermarks	[[watermarks::[partial prince of wales feathers]]]
Marginals		Paper Producer	arthur wellesley, duke of wellington
Corrections		Paper Produced in Year
Notes public		ID Number	47124
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